Local view for "http://purl.org/linkedpolitics/eu/plenary/2008-06-17-Speech-2-024"

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rdf:type	lpv_eu:Speech2
dcterms:Date	"2008-06-17"^^xsd:date2
dcterms:Is Part Of	lp_eu:Common standards and procedures in Member States for returning illegally staying third-country nationals (debate)2
dcterms:Language	"it"^^xsd:language2
lpv:document identification number	"en.20080617.4.2-024"2
lpv:hasSubsequent	lp_eu:2008-06-17-Speech-2-0252
lpv:speaker	lp:Claudio Fava2
lpv:spokenAs	substitute; Delegation to the ACP-EU Joint Parliamentary Assembly (2004-09-15--2009-07-13)3 substitute; DROI (2007-01-31--2009-07-13)3 member; Delegation for relations with the countries of the Andean Community (2007-03-14--2009-07-13)3 substitute; PECH (2007-01-31--2009-07-13)3 member; PES (2004-07-20--2009-07-13)3 vice-chair; Delegation to the Euro-Latin American Parliamentary Assembly (2007-06-21--2009-07-13)3 unknown; Sinistra Democratica (2008-02-19--2009-07-13)3 member; LIBE (2007-01-31--2009-07-13)3 substitute; REGI (2007-01-31--2009-07-13)3
lpv:translated text	"Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, allow me to address the Council, because it is not our directive or the Commission proposal that we are debating, but the way in which the Council has emptied it of all meaning. This directive reflects the common direction that the debate on immigration is taking in Europe. The fact that it has been unanimously approved by the Council does not diminish but heightens the message it represents. It is a message that speaks to us of a Europe built on the principle of mistrust. The issue is not the advisability of a directive that creates a joint, shared system. The issue is what this directive lays down. The day after the death of 150 illegal immigrants who drowned in the Mediterranean, you are asking us to tell the survivors that from tomorrow those who, like them, are already in our countries will be faced with a provision stipulating up to 18 months of detention. We are approving a devastating legal principle that provides for the possibility of depriving an individual of liberty for up to 18 months through an administrative measure and without any crime having been committed. What we would never tolerate in our countries if it were applied to a European citizen, we permit and support for illegal immigrants. The 18 amendments that restore signs of political civilisation to this measure, tabled by our group, are an attempt to restore dignity in legislative terms to a provision that we believe to be humiliating not only for the European Union but also for our Member States. If they are not adopted, there will be many votes against this, including mine, Mr President. I do not believe that there is a broad consensus, Mr Weber. There is no consensus on the discretion and judgment that we are giving our countries regarding the way in which the most significant points of this directive will be dealt with. This Parliament is not the guardian of abstract rules. It is a Parliament to which the treaties attribute the duty to protect specific principles, specific principles relating to the law and political civilisation. The Council is asking us to renounce these principles in order to move swiftly. We believe that on this point there is a fundamental mistake. Here you are not asking us to move swiftly, you are asking us to make the wrong move: wrong for immigrants, wrong for Europe, wrong for our Member States, and it is a responsibility that we do not wish to share with you."@en1

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